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Does indian education offer any quality?

Does indian education offer any quality?

I am formally educated in India. So, i decided why not write about the poor quality of education in India. Let me tell you, Indian education is over hyped. I accept India is a great country but Indian education on the other hand is not great at all. I am a B.Tech computer engineer and i got all my education in India. Education in India is 99% focused on theoretical aspects. That’s why more and more people in India are unemployed and even if they get employed they are given former training to equip them with the latest industry trends. If you say me to rate Indian education, I will give it a flat 3 out of 10. So why is Indian education so much worse? why?

Because of the following reasons:

  1. The faculty in Indian colleges are neither trained well nor they have that much knowledge. Remember i am not talking about IITs and like colleges. Gone are the days when teaching was considered a good profession. Now people generally go in the teaching line because they did not get job elsewhere. There are exceptions however.
  2. Now teachers do not want to teach students they just want to do their jobs.
  3. Teacher themselves are not too curious.Today technology is virtually changing every six months.They just have outdated knowledge which does not serve any purpose today.
  4. The syllabus itself is very old and nobody is taking pains to change or modify them.

B.Tech is a great course because it takes 4 years of our life but what do we get in return- Just superficial knowledge on each and every subject which never helps even a bit in our future endeavors.Nobody wants to take a fresh graduates because they know fresh graduates do not have anything to offer to the industry. I blame it full on the indian politicians and education systems.

To be continued…..

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33 comments

  1. Dr.Jayanthy says:
    2010-01-20 at 12:05 pm
    Well.. good to hear this. Many of the deemed universities do not function to spread education across the region. Its just the buisness. Many students who are not good in academics have joined in these institutions since they can get degree in a easy way.

    The input quality is also not scruitinised by the university . Many would have submitted fake documents in the university to get admission. There is no structured procedure to verify the documents during admission. As long as you get money the universities also admit the students.

    Literally speaking the total intake of students cannot be changed since DCI/MCI is having a control in medical and dental colleges.( even in case if deemed to be university bcuz they need to register to practise in INDIA) Whereas in engineering Colleges ( Deemed universities)no one is there to stipulate the total intake. Even AICTE doent know the total number of students got admitted by the deemed to be university in each year. Even if u ask.. they may give a wrong figure.

    These universities can make money now by spoiling the education system. Atleast now MHRD has awaken to stop this buisness. If not the imopact would be seen after 30 to 40 years that INDIA doent have a quality Engineers and doctors

    • Thanks Dr. Jayanthy for your comment and thoughts.

      I do believe that the standard of Indian education should be enhanced else India will be in miserable condition. I am still not sure that MHRD will do anything for this.

      Moreover, I am still confused what MHRD is?

  2. You know nothing about the education. You are truly the product of this system, which is very socialist, and blames the business sector.

    The truth is your India lacks the competitive market. That is the reason of all these bullshit.

    India is really poor, why… they are lazy.

    All teachers are lazy, that`s why they don`t change their syllabuses.

    The solution is to go to USA, or UK. Only there, those Indians can succeed. But, in real India, the situation is horrible. Shame on you people.

    Also, don`t say that Indians are good at NASA, Microsoft. blah blah

    They are not Indians, they are Americans who do not know about India, do not want to hear about it, because they really shame on India, and forgets about India forever.

    • True i also in that condition…….very sad…..;(

    • I agree with you.

      Problem is this – Indians behave like ostrich, they think that by hiding in the cover all the problems will get resolved, in reality, not facing the problem itself gives rise to so many problem.

      No one in India wants to listen to the truth.

      Working in body shopping firms and paying the bills was not the motive to study Engineering. Even though, many people will say that I always wanted to work in the application side of the software helping clients, deep down they despise this fact that they work as clerks, they are nothing more than vocational technicians who keep on working on the same kind of problem again and again, the only thing is that they are paid better. And how’s that pay structure high? Because of the dollars converted in INR, which makes it look inflated. Otherwise, the so called software engineers working in software factories of India are no different than the electrician who owns a shop in the suburb of the city of the bengaluru.

      It is high time that people realize the truth. And I will not believe that Indian Engineers are so competent that they cannot be trained. It is the industry-academia’s responsibility to train Engineers, that is also missing here. And to my surprise, no one is willing to call spade a spade.

  3. Education in India is like a Catch-22 situation Because the piece of paper they will give has no value,but at the same time it is absolutely necessary to have it !
    I am a lower middle class parent grappling with the problem of how to send ones child for graduation — with limited options and finances such that both the child and the parent can survive this ordeal — financially,mentally and physically
    Self Employment seems to be the best bet, but is not an option with our family.
    Seems like something DRASTIC — like mass boycott of the system will force the system to change . Already in the schooling domain people in India are embracing “homeschooling” no doubt their numbers are minuscule , hope the movement catches fire and spreads.
    I myself walked the middle path sending the child to a not so expensive pvt school but taking care of all educational needs at home & in 9Th and 10Th by way of tuitions
    .

    • India education system has now become business. Look how many universities, private institutes are just coming up. To add to it the coaching centers are booming like it is not education but a pure business. Recently I had the chance to meet a Japanese who is a business manager in an american company with a simple btech degree from one of of the 2nd grade american university. Believe me I told him about indian IITs and he directly told me they do not do good research except teaching. I felt bad about it but then I realised he was right, even Indias so called elite IITs produce very little of scientific importance. Students who got trained in IITs simply go abroad or change their field to more lucrative jobs in IT sector leaving everything what they have learned as their core subject in Btech.

      Like the author of this website , I got my primary education in India followed by working in europe japan n US. Now coming home to start something fresh in India. Hope to make some students realise that its not about how much percentage you got , it is about what you can do given an assignment. Lets hope for the best

      • I don’t find anything wrong with that. Infact, even I am planning to move out now. I am not from IIT,but yes, do have an Engineering degree from an Elite university.

        The problem is that the Indian Business houses treats talented Engineers as a worker.

        And now, in India, all the jobs are being owned by the body shoppers. So either work hard to get job with microsoft/google/amazon or join a body shopper run by a corrupt gulte and suffer for the rest of your lives, because, these body shppers takes heavy toll on personal life and one has to go through mental harassment.

      • My myth about IIT/BITS/NIT got shattered last year, I have worked with them. They too are nothing special, now exceptions will always be exceptions.

        Also, by studying from IIT and opening an apps development shop is not talent, that anyone can do, IITians do it early, so the hype.

        It were the coaching institutes who created the hype around IIT.

        Also, ask about the job scenario of the core engineering sector in IIT, you will get a very surprising answer.

  4. Yeah..it is. Why someone think that Indians can not offer any quality in education but the effect is different on different peoples.

  5. In India there are lack of the professional education and it becomes very necessary for everyone to make the career at the high stage and get the satisfaction.

    • But Engineering is not a professional course, it is an expert level education and those who have aptitude for it must join.

  6. Great post. You have hit the nail.

    The problem with india in general is of demand and supply. In india, everyone wants to study engineering but good or decent engineering colleges are in shortages. That’s the biggest problem that why indian engineers do not get trained properly. I had cleared IIIT-Bangalore entrance, but could not join. But after that, i have been doing pretty much low lever kind of work, which indian software houses gives you to do so.

    So government of india must step in to make sure that talented people’s talent are being utilized to develop the india as a strong state. Infact, VED have given clear role for ENGINEERS, to BUILD NATIONS. Unfortunately, in current times, people think that VED etc are some sort of SUPERSTITIONS beliefs etc, where as it people will become VEDIC, india will be a developed nation once again and ENGINEERS are the one who bring modernity to the nation itself.

  7. Yes, Indian educational institutions have global standard education, one of the best schools called vibgyorhigh have their branches across India. The syllabus is based on international standard. It offers ICSE ,CBSE, A-level and IGCSE curriculum.

  8. I wonder how i missed this blog. Well, as soon as i return to India, i will write my opinion, infact my observation as a teacher, as a researcher and of course as an unionist.
    Congrats to Ashish and others in the discussion, as you spare time for tricky socio-political issues

    biju

  9. See the following blog which contains my views on how to correct Engg teachers to produce good quality engineers
    http://needforatesttotestyoungenggfaculty.blogspot.in/

    Do note that so called iIT’s are facing acute shortage of teaching faculty

    • The quality in education is just an Elephant in a room. Even IITs do not hire good people. They go for contractual faculty. Who lack motivation and inspiration. all the private colleges in india are shops, faculty poor, nil knowledge with fake degrees. Very surprised today that all the MBA holders get minimum 75% to 85% without going to the college and attending any class.They pose serious threat to the hardworking students.
      A man without any academic knowledge may become a Vice chancellor or ProVc in a private university but can not become a good faculty. Faculty members are available at meager salaries of 8000 to 15000. how they produce good students. The colleges are giving 50% fee waiver to attract any ineligible students, just to earn money. No infrastructure, no building, no faculty .Just give money and get degree.

      • In case of IIT, they will increase the fees and will maintain the quality, so that way, their standards will never go down. What about NON IIT engineering graduats, barring BITS,REC,IIIT, etc? India has a huge population and providing employment to such a huge population is a challenging tasks. On Engineering, I will again repeat, it is not a diploma syllabus but rather a subject on which entire thesis has to be written. In present times, the Engineers who are being passed out of such tier-2,3 universities are technicians. In the past, we had ITI and polytechnic institues who were producing auto mechanic, electricians, plumbers etc to take care of the systems, in the present times, these IT graduates are technicians in the software industry, who are dressed as software engineers.

  10. The challenge with india on the whole is regarding demand and gives. In of india, everyone wishes to study engineering but good or respectable engineering colleges come in shortages. That’s the most important problem that will why native american engineers do not get trained correctly. I experienced cleared IIIT-Bangalore entrance, but could hardly join. But from then on, i are actually doing pretty much low lever kind of work, which native american software houses offers you to take action.

  11. Education and Health continue to be neglected right from independence. We have countless government and private Schools, colleges and Universities. Yet we are far behind in delivering quality education. Do you know why?

    • People are to be blamed. Look at the minset of middle class, they view going to gym or doing excercise a burden. I think middle class people really don’t like to get ahead and are happy in mediocrity. Then they must not cry that government is taxing them, they themselves are responsible for this.

  12. Yes, There is too much theoretical part in education in India. Education system should include practical part as well. Its true that people in India take teaching as their profession because there is no other option. That is why there is lack of quality teachers in India. Most colleges are present only to earn money. This scenario should change in future.

  13. Out education system can not create a good scientist or mathematician. Because we just give our Primary need to MONEY instead of knowledge. Let me say, there are a semester systems in all courses. In the class as some intelligent students grasp early, and get maximum marks. but other hand, some students also there who are intelligent but they doesn’t have a same grasping power like other. And low grasping power student also have a fear about the rejection in interview. So they don’t try to understand what is concept of, they just try to accept that as that is.

    We should prepare the students from their primary standard. And parents have to know which in which field there children interested.

    • Education is not just science and mathematics, merely solving questions from books is not education, it is much more than that. In the past, we had chanakya, who wrote a treatise ARTHASHASHTRA, a timeless beauty,that’s education.

  14. Dears, the blog and the debate are really appreciable and of great importance. Indian education is a certificate offering course, knowledge and skills are negligible. But i have just got admission in b.tech in a private college and belongs to an economically weak lower middle class family and i will my money. Sit down before a pc or smart phone and debating on the topic is not a solution we should unite and take action it. I will try my best but alone i just got kicked out but i’ll try.

  15. In India, the trend is to get a job and settle down, own a house, a mediocre car.

    If you happen to be a middle class person, who actually belong to an extraordinary league, and talk loud and clear, people will say bolta bahut hai

    you try to establish something, which is related with hardcore ENGINEERING, people will say ‘KYA KARNE KE LIYE, NAUKAR-I karo’

    Not to forget the emphasis placed on entrances, I don’t think so that if one clears an Entrnace exam, the aptitude and the interests can be found. It is good that people are able to crack them,but it just gets over there.

    Unfortunately, people still have the same old mindset of being a clerk and servant.

  16. I totally agree with you .

    I am a B.E. student in a not so known engineering college in india .
    when i took an admission in the college i had some assumptions about engineering. that engineers get practical knowledge about the letest & most used things about technologies in their course .
    that by defination of any education process is nothing but know-practice- apply-analyse-repeat.
    but that was the biggest mistake of my life because all i did for two years is write assignments about many usless and impracticle things withe absolutely zero practicle value.
    practicles in the college was also a joke because there was no communication between practicle teachers and theory teachers so most of the time when i am in practicle lab i have absolutely no idea what to do . & those practicles are mostly performed on kits and not on real things.

    i did it for two years and then i took a gap for 2 years .
    and in these two years i learned more about many things than i ever learned in my entire life.
    actual practicle stuff.
    now i am siriously thinking about quitting engg. and starting my own business.
    anyways, just read ur post , i felt each & every word of it
    best of luck in whatever you are doing

    p.s. my batchmates who now are passouts . not single 1 of them got job

  17. Thanks your post .. its verry helpfulli aratical . i am interset your corse.Unfortunately, people still have the same old mindset of being a clerk and servant.

  18. Hi , I’m not a university graduate like u guys I’m just a secondary skl student basically I’m Indian but I was in Singapore for 10years with some breaks and now I have shifted to India due to sm reasons and I say the Indian education system is total s@!t it’s full of memorizing. It robs the thinking capability of a student it’s just like scan copy print .knowledge dosent matter here guys with no practical knowledge nor know what there actually studying about get high marks but those who are really intelligent get low marks unlike other education systems where marks are actually a true indicator of how intelligent u are and it’s full of memorizing which I hate the most

    • Even those who get high marks on the basis of knowledge suffer here. I am an example, till 10th, I was an average guy because I never had interest in subjects such as hindi etc, but was always good with mathematics and science. In 12th, I topped my school, all in pure science and english subjects. Yet I am struggling here. I believe that in India, one who has genuine passion to learn subjects, wants to gain knowledge have to struggle a lot. If you are a good worker, you will excel. Indian society values donkeys high, not horses

  19. On education becoming a business, I have seen it happening. My own daughter’s prep school Till last year, everything was fine, she used to do her homework willingly,now even if i request her to do the same, she revolts and cries. What could be the reason? The founders are interested in minting money now and brining teachers via process. Earlier, a child counsellor used to teach/take their classes. Until and unless teachers don’t connect with students, students cannot be educated. Yes, my daughter is literate, but not gaining education. Good thing is that she has high skills in painting, and I am encouraging that trait and quality of hers, it is not always science and maths, other things matter too.

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